Official: Missouri River Pedestrian Bridge

sokkerdewd · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject:

One would think that dropping the bridge in the park instead of the CB condo's back yard would benefit this project in the realm of public access, as well as those who will live in the condos not wanting the constant stream of visitors to their property...could be a win/win! Smile

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eomaha.com · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject:

A reply from Figg... the bridge engineers...

Dear Jeff,

Thanks for your question regarding the material used on the outside of the stay cables. The proposed material for the Missouri River pedestrian cable-stayed bridge is a high density polyethylene (HDPE) pipe that is manufactured specifically for this application. It is designed to resist the elements encountered by cable-stays in a marine environment. The Post-Tensioning Institute, an industry group that researches and establishes standards for cable-stayed bridges, includes this material in their design recommendations. We have used this a form of this material on other cable stayed bridges, including the Varina-Enon Bridge near Richmond, VA, the Veteran's Memorial Bridge over the Neches River, in Texas and the Clark Bridge near St. Louis, MO. The newest generation of this material, which is what is also proposed for the pedestrian bridge, was used on the new Charles River Bridge in Boston, MA that opened to traffic last year. The material is designed to have a design life similar to the bridge design itself - 100 years. The HDPE pipe provides a protective outer coating for the stay cables. Internally, each steel strand is also coated with epoxy to protect it. Jeff, I hope that this information is useful to you.

Cheryl Maze
Director of Lasting Impressions
FIGG

The Charles River Bridge... part of Boston's 'Big Dig'

DTO Luv · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject:

I always thought that bridge looked like ours.

I cant imagine the condos in CB not being built just because the bridge doesn't go right to the front door. Their also is money to be made w/ the project so if they want to add their own extension I don't see why they can't do that.

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Sodak · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:45 pm Post subject:

Great news!! I'm sure that Signa will find a way to make their condos work on the Iowa side.

StreetsOfOmaha · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject:

"It might look the same from a distance, but think plastic instead of stainless steel. The switch in materials for the cables that stretch from the towers to the bridge platform will be made of a plastic that resembles stainless steel."

This statement makes me want to barf, but I'm not surprised. I knew they had to cheapen it down somehow.

Oh well, at least it sorta gets the same effect.

I really hope the SCALE of the bridge hasn't changed. It would be even more disapointing if this replacement were smaller in scale than the original, in addition to being made of cheap materials.

All in all, I'm glad it's making progress.

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eomaha.com · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject:

Hey... if plastic coated cables are good enough for the 'Big Dig'... they're good enough for Omaha. Aside from the length chopped off from the CB side to their levy... it sounds like the size of the bridge remains the same. The only visual difference that I can see... is indeed the number of cables. It still looks to be a very nice bridge. I was afraid they were going to clip the spires entirely.

Now that said... we still have to come up with another $2-4 million... ASSUMING... the next set of bids will come in under the cost the budget estimate.

DTO Luv · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:20 pm Post subject:

That would be the biggest let down in history. We still get esentially the same bridge only to not get it beacuse of $2-$4 million. Even if it is a little bit over I hope someone will donate the money to see it completed. I'm thinking the Rag Herald should do some good for once and help w/ the bridge.

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guy4omaha · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:59 pm Post subject:

DTO Luv · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject:

Sounds like it would work. Has Mister Lo done anything as a private citizen to bring this idea back into the limelight?

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edsas · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately, Lo was so publicly ridiculed over his idea by other city officials that I wouldn't be surprised if he never mentioned his idea again. Just goes to show what kind of leadership the city has right now.

DTO Luv · Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject:

Does this bridge even have an official name? I think Lewis & Clark would be an alright choice.

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almighty_tuna · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:04 am Post subject:

Last I heard it was to be named after Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I find it rather unimaginative and nearly insulting that such a future Omaha landmark would not be named after a local at the very least.

eomaha.com · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:27 am Post subject:

No... you've let the local media confuse you tuna (two tv stations incorrectly reported way back that this naming controversy was tied to the naming of the Missouri River bridge)... the MLK designation was given to the Qwest Center to Lewis & Clark Landing bridge... which I don't even think is worthy of a name... and certainly not worthy of carrying MLK's name.

DTO Luv · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:49 pm Post subject:

i care nothing for the Huskers but if Omaha has more Heisman tophy winners than any other city than I think we should have named it the Heisman bridge. But we had to give in to Frank Browns gig ugly |expletive| w/ his cries of racism even when Frankilin Thomas was for the Heisman name.

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almighty_tuna · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject:

jiminomaha · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject:

I do remember that the name controversy between MLK and Heisman bridge was for the bridge connecting the Qwest Center to Lewis and Clark Landing. And I agree with a previous post that seemed to be hinting that the bridge sucks. I remember reading an OWH column saying something about that bridge winning a design award--if this is true it surely wasn't for aesthetics. I don't think a name for the Missouri River Pedestrian Bridge has ever been discussed because at this point its still only theoritical. Hopefully will be having a controversy soon about what that bridge will be named, because that will mean that its a done deal. Maybe to get the OWH to use the name Qwest Center, we could negotiate a deal with them and call it the Omaha World Herald Pedestrian Bridge.

I kind of have a feeling the missing 4 million for the bridge will be generated from selling the name. Maybe we will have the Cox Communications Bridge, Berkshire Hathaway Bridge or Level 3 Communications Bridge.

almighty_tuna · Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:57 am Post subject:

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Just wondering if anybody has any specs on the bridge. I was pleased to hear that things are looking positive as far as getting it built is concerned but so far haven't seen a lot more than the pictures. Anybody know for example how tall the spires are supposed to be, height and width of the walkway, etc? Any details would be most appreciated. Thx.

omahahawk · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: riverfront bridge

Just wanted to say hello to everyone and show the props for a cool web site. I've been checking out the posts for awhile as I have become increasingly interested in what has been going on in and around Omaha during the last year. Got to say this site has been an outstanding source of info. I've been reading quite a bit about the Omaha by Design initiatives, condo and riverfront development, etc. but haven't found much on the proposed pedestrian bridge that I believed to be in conjunction with the One Riverfront development. Anybody heard anything related to this proposal lately?

almighty_tuna · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject:

The pedestrian bridge is a separate, unrelated project to the One Riverfront development. The developers of One Riverfront are sure waiting anxiously for it though! Nothing heard lately - latest news was bid came in at twice the estimated cost and so they went back to revamp the design and figure out how to make it less expensive. Don't get scared when i say "revamp" - the original concept will be the same, its just getting a tweak.

icejammer · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:34 am Post subject:

If I'm not mistaken, the "tweak" is already done, but it still came in a couple million over original estimates. From what I read and heard, proponents were seeking private funds to make up the difference, but I haven't heard anything for awhile on this.

I certainly hope this gets moving soon - schedules are going to be slipping big time shortly.

DMRyan · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:

Do you recall how much (if they released it) the bridge was over budget after the tweaking of the design? Private donations sounds like a good idea. There's got to be some company in Omaha that wouldn't mind having their name plastered to a local icon like this for the tune of a couple of million dollars. I'm still convinced it'll get built with that much federal money already in place and hopefully they won't have to retweak the already retweaked design.

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almighty_tuna · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:09 am Post subject:

omahahawk · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:09 am Post subject:

Thanks for the replies. I guess from what I heard the redesign came back a lot closer to target but I don't actually remember how close. Since then though I haven't heard much more. Corporate sponsorship would be a good thing and I agree that the Mutual of Omaha pedestrian bridge doesn't sound too bad. I wish I could find some more information though about what the likelihood of it's reality is and how concrete the start plans are.

DMRyan · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:14 am Post subject:

Unfortunately my tuna friend, I was being serious. Those are the times we live in and if that's what it takes to get the project going so be it, IMO.

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omahahawk · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:53 am Post subject:

I think if I remember right they were just about in 3-5 million of their target range. I could live with a coroporate bridge as long as it wasn't totally plastered up like a billboard.

redfield · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject:

It's really a shame that the bridge encountered so many problems. I'm sure it will still happen, but in the meantime it killed the One Rennaissance Center condo/apartment project that was to be on the Iowa end.

Signa perhaps shouldn't have depended so heavily on a public project like that, and while it was financing uncertainty that caused CB not to approve it, financing probably wouldn't have been in question if the bridge had been on track still. Without the bridge in place, One Renaissance Center would have been pretty risky investment for any bank. I expect that when they finally break ground for the bridge, that Signa or somebody else will renew the idea of developing playland park.

Riverfront Place on the other hand, will sell out just fine with or without the bridge. The bridge would just speed that process up, as it would/will be a very nice feature to market.

projectman · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject:

Philanthropy is alive and well in Omaha. I am sure there is someone who will dig deep in their pockets if this project is in trouble. I agree with Tuna and hope we don't give it some tacky corporate name.

DTO Luv · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

I seriously doubt this will be a corporate sponsered bridge. It will probably have some generic river or Lewis and Clark themed name.

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StreetsOfOmaha · Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:

It looks like if and when the bridge is constructed, it will be poised to be the record holder for "Most Drawn Out, Delayed Project in Omaha" Smile

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