New apartment building in Old Market - 12th & Howard

derog · Post by **derog** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:55 am

Omaha World Herald wrote:A new brick-and-glass-front building — to be filled with a mix of old and new tenants — is about to expand the look and feel of the Old Market.

The $4.7 million multistory structure would replace the longtime home of Maggie Moo's ice cream and Little King sandwich shop at the southwest corner of 12th and Howard Streets. Both eateries have been invited to return when the new and larger digs are constructed. They'd be joined by a full-service restaurant in the main corner bay and 12 upper-level apartments.

City planners welcome the 1201 Howard Street project headed by developer Eric Wieseler.

"It's going to carry the Old Market across 12th Street," said Planning Director Rick Cunningham.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:58 am

Holy |expletive| that looks awesome!

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:00 am

This is AWESOME. Â I have been wondering when this lot was going to get filled. Â The OM is going to get some major improvements in the next couple of years with this project and the Hyatt tower.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:26 am

Seriously between those two on 12th right in the heart of the OM. Â Add on the two new apartment buildings right on the fringe of the OM we have a ton of projects down in a pretty small area.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:27 am

I wonder if Kings and Maggy Moo's are going to relocate?

edit whoops missed that in the article. Â I wonder if they will decide to occupy a spot in the new building?

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:32 am

iamjacobm wrote:Seriously between those two on 12th right in the heart of the OM. Add on the two new apartment buildings right on the fringe of the OM we have a ton of projects down in a pretty small area.

I don't think the market will be even remotely close to saturated when they're completed, either.

I'd love to see the same thing happen to the corner where Ted & Wally's is, too (without any interruption of the ice cream flow, of course).

Not sure I'd go with the modern glass look down there, but as long as another surface lot is disappearing I'm not going to |expletive| too much.

derog · Post by **derog** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:45 am

I think another huge part is this: "As proposed, a full-service restaurant would move into a 5,000-squre-foot corner space. The restaurant has been secured, but its name not yet disclosed."

Assuming it's true (and I have no reason to believe it's not), that immediate restaurant occupancy is great news.

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:45 am

Big E wrote:
iamjacobm wrote: as long as another surface lot is disappearing I'm not going to |expletive| too much.

+1 intergoogles

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:46 am

Big E wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Seriously between those two on 12th right in the heart of the OM. Add on the two new apartment buildings right on the fringe of the OM we have a ton of projects down in a pretty small area.
I don't think the market will be even remotely close to saturated when they're completed, either.

I'd love to see the same thing happen to the corner where Ted & Wally's is, too (without any interruption of the ice cream flow, of course).

Not sure I'd go with the modern glass look down there, but as long as another surface lot is disappearing I'm not going to |expletive| too much.

I totally agree. Â In the article it said something like 98% of DT rental property is filled. Â That seems like a really high number.

Agree on the Ted and Wallys and maybe the half dozen surface lots that litter the OM.

I thought that when I saw the rendering it looks more like a North Downtown design than an Old Market one, but I am not not to complain about it.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:00 am

Very good news to hear, I am excited for both of these projects and hope to see the construction start for both.

10thstgoober · Post by **10thstgoober** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:48 am

Can someone post the rendering? Â Thx

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:02 pm

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:23 pm

I love how with every new apartment development downtown they talk about attracting "mixed-income" and then reveal the "market rate" pricing. Â Another great project all the same.

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:27 pm

iamjacobm wrote:
Big E wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Seriously between those two on 12th right in the heart of the OM. Add on the two new apartment buildings right on the fringe of the OM we have a ton of projects down in a pretty small area.
I don't think the market will be even remotely close to saturated when they're completed, either.

I'd love to see the same thing happen to the corner where Ted & Wally's is, too (without any interruption of the ice cream flow, of course).

Not sure I'd go with the modern glass look down there, but as long as another surface lot is disappearing I'm not going to |expletive| too much.
I totally agree. In the article it said something like 98% of DT rental property is filled. That seems like a really high number.

Agree on the Ted and Wallys and maybe the half dozen surface lots that litter the OM.

I thought that when I saw the rendering it looks more like a North Downtown design than an Old Market one, but I am not not to complain about it.

Same architects. Â It does fit with the new Lund building around the corner that houses Hiro 88 too.

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:48 pm

nebport5 wrote: I love how with every new apartment development downtown they talk about attracting "mixed-income" and then reveal the "market rate" pricing. Another great project all the same.

Truth. But I'm very excited about this project. I hope Maggie Moos and Little King do decide to return. It can only be a good thing for Little King, their current building is just raggedy.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:57 pm

Decided to make a Homers trip partially inspired by this project.

That corner will be nearly as popular as the one on 11th. Â I think it would be great to see the 4 round brick planters installed at this intersection like on 11th and Howard. Â It will become a natural 2nd gathering place. Â Also some trees or better awnings along Howard just west of 12th would be nice, there really isn't much cover right there.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:55 pm

I'm kinda starting to take issue with the brick mixed with metal... why can't we just bring back ornamental facades?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:58 pm

Axel wrote:I'm kinda starting to take issue with the brick mixed with metal... why can't we just bring back ornamental facades?

Not to agree or disagree with you here, but the same conversation was had against ornamental facades about 100 years ago. Â Also the Old Market isn't really made up of that many buildings with ornamental facades anyways.

These two look like the could of had the same architect.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:51 am

iamjacobm wrote:
Axel wrote:I'm kinda starting to take issue with the brick mixed with metal... why can't we just bring back ornamental facades?
Not to agree or disagree with you here, but the same conversation was had against ornamental facades about 100 years ago. Also the Old Market isn't really made up of that many buildings with ornamental facades anyways.

These two look like the could of had the same architect.

True, but I was thinking of the beauty The AT&T Building used to be I suppose. Something like that, nothing too fancy. But I see your point about the Old Market.

mcarch · Post by **mcarch** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:55 pm

Love it!

Post by **Brad** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:25 am

This is really going to connect the old market! Â I can't wait to see it completed.

justnick · Post by **justnick** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:16 pm

Little Kings and Maggie Moos are both "closed for remodeling"

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:55 pm

Helluva remodel.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:01 pm

I was wondering when construction would get started. Â Progress!

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:49 pm

I noticed Maggie Moos cleared out last week when my wife and I went out to happy hour at Blue. Â That will really improve that corner; I always thought it looked trashy, set back behind the parking lot. Â I'll excuse Ted and Wally's for having a street-fronted lot, but only because it's been that way since Old Market was Old Market (and the ice cream is better too!).

Post by **Coyote** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:23 pm

Post by **Brad** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:28 pm

Wow, that was quick!

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:23 pm

Brad wrote:Wow, that was quick!

No kidding!

I was in the Old Market last night an mentioned how I couldn't wait till that was torn down while passing it. Â And there it goes.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:55 pm

iamjacobm wrote:
Brad wrote:Wow, that was quick!
No kidding!

I was in the Old Market last night an mentioned how I couldn't wait till that was torn down while passing it. And there it goes.

Wow, that was fast! Â I guess it doesn't take long to clear out trash like that though, lol.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:58 am

BUILDING PERMITS:
Sidney B. Wertheim, 1201 Howard St., $1,618,212.

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:57 pm

Hmmm. Never heard of him/her.

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:50 pm

StreetsOfOmaha wrote:Hmmm. Never heard of him/her.

http://www.trademarkia.com/corresponden ... m-1-228388

Looks like trade name registered to a couple attorneys.

2Adam29 · Post by **2Adam29** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:28 am

They have put up a better fence around the construction area and appeared to have a slightly nicer rendering of the finished property on a sign. I took a kinda crummy cell phone pic of it...

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:30 am

That looks great!!

I can't wait to see this one pop up. Â It shouldn't take terribly long.

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:10 pm

That does look great. Can't wait to see this block with this building + the Hyatt.

NovakOmaha · Post by **NovakOmaha** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:18 pm

Brad wrote:BUILDING PERMITS:
Sidney B. Wertheim, 1201 Howard St., $1,618,212.

He started the Little King chain. Â I think his son Bob runs it now.

windsor · Post by **windsor** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:10 am

What a fantastic project for the Old Market. Â I can't wait to see steel rising from the ground.

nativeomahan · Post by **nativeomahan** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:26 am

It would be too bad if the project loses the balconies, however. Â They can be so pretty in the summertime with vines and flowers covering them.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:50 am

nativeomahan wrote:It would be too bad if the project loses the balconies, however. They can be so pretty in the summertime with vines and flowers covering them.

I didn't notice that until you said something. Â I wonder why they would take away the balconies?

Big E · Post by **Big E** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:59 pm

Linkin5 wrote:
nativeomahan wrote:It would be too bad if the project loses the balconies, however. They can be so pretty in the summertime with vines and flowers covering them.
I didn't notice that until you said something. I wonder why they would take away the balconies?

Zoning of some kind. Â Can't have them extending over a sidewalk. Â Notice any balconies that exist now are either grandfathered on old buildings, over an alley (like the north facing units on Kimball Lofts) or set back (like on the south side of jLofts). I can't remember how the ones on the south alley side of jLofts are. Â

I think they could have them if they set the exterior of the building back from what is considered the sidewalk. Â Someone else will have to fill in the nitpickery details of the actual requirements.