Crime in Omaha

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Wed May 20, 2015 5:23 pm

Both officer and suspect have died.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:22 pm

Really amazing scene downtown for the funeral.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:56 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Really amazing scene downtown for the funeral.

Not to sound insensitive, but I can't believe they closed the 480 bridge which is the only access from CB to downtown Omaha. If there were a medical emergency, how would someone be transported? I can see closing one lane on the interstate for the procession, but having both closed seems a bit ridiculous.

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue May 26, 2015 2:00 pm

skinzfan23 wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Really amazing scene downtown for the funeral.
Not to sound insensitive, but I can't believe they closed the 480 bridge which is the only access from CB to downtown Omaha. If there were a medical emergency, how would someone be transported? I can see closing one lane on the interstate for the procession, but having both closed seems a bit ridiculous.

I am sure if there was an emergency it could have been opened faster than any vehicle needed through. Much safe for the procession for both to be closed and for the people that would be driving through not knowing what was going on and not paying attention to the one lane of traffic.

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Tue May 26, 2015 2:20 pm

skinzfan23 wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Really amazing scene downtown for the funeral.
Not to sound insensitive, but I can't believe they closed the 480 bridge which is the only access from CB to downtown Omaha. If there were a medical emergency, how would someone be transported? I can see closing one lane on the interstate for the procession, but having both closed seems a bit ridiculous.

If the patient was on the Iowa side, take them to Mercy hospital in Council Bluffs? I'm sure that there are contingency plans along a parade/procession route for such an issue.

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Wed May 27, 2015 11:52 am

Also, they I480 Bridge was open into Omaha. They would never need to take someone to Council Bluffs in an emergency since almost all serious emergency related facilities are in Omaha. People that wanted to get to CB, they could just go a bit south or north or just wait the 1 hour it was closed. Definitely worth closing purely out of respect.

bigredmed · Post by **bigredmed** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:35 pm

Someone that unstable would be taken to Jenny or Mercy and stablized, then air transported to a destination hospital.

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Wed May 27, 2015 12:44 pm

In my opinion, the street/bridge closings were totally appropriate. People need to be able to show their respect and pause for a few moments to reflect on the importance of life. I was proud to see how many people lined the streets and all of the out-of-town law enforcement officers who attended.

Down south, especially in rural areas, all funeral processions (not just civil servants) seem to get much more respect. People stop and pull over to the side of the road, some even get out of their cars until the procession passes.

Most importantly, people need to stop shooting/killing each other.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:02 pm

8 shot in 6 different incidents last night. One victim died this morning.

Post by **Coyote** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:41 pm

iamjacobm wrote:8 shot in 6 different incidents last night. One victim died this morning.

...blamed on "a lingering dispute among three sects of the Bloods gang"

Post by **Brad** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:28 pm

Second call like this tonight! People are so dumb.

From an OPD crusier computer

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:34 pm

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Post by **Brad** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:38 pm

That's exactly what I thought of!

best line ever too... "I'm not a drug dealer, I'm a prostitute".

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:25 pm

25 homicides in Omaha so far this year. Last year's 25th wasn't until September 24th.

Post by **BRoss** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:24 pm

Saw the aftermath on my way to the dentist this morning:

Two suspects at large after incident along I-480

KETV wrote:Police are investigating an apparent road rage incident along Interstate 480.

Several people pulled over when a car crashed into a ditch near I-480. A witness told KETV NewsWatch 7 that the driver looked like he had a cut lip, but was otherwise fine.

At least two others with the man ran off.

Police believe the people in the car were involved in an incident five miles away near 30th and Sorensen. Officers said the Lumina and a Dodge pickup truck took off from that area and sped down I-480. Police said that’s when someone inside the car started shooting.

Omababe · Post by **Omababe** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:20 am

iamjacobm wrote:25 homicides in Omaha so far this year. Last year's 25th wasn't until September 24th.

Not to be a total b*tch here, but are the cops and the administration totally unable to do anything about this?

It seems like violent crime is totally out of control!

One of the reasons I moved out here many years ago was that the Omaha area was very safe. Ironically, now Omaha is getting scary and places such as east Harlem and Bed-Stuy are becoming trendy and perfectly safe!

Stargazer · Post by **Stargazer** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:40 am

While Jean is still trying to work out how to eliminate the restaurant tax? I doubt it.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:52 am

Omababe wrote:Not to be a total b*tch here, but are the cops and the administration totally unable to do anything about this?

Violent crime in Omaha has been bad for the past decade or more. We have been though 4 mayors (Daub, Fahey, Suttle, Stothart) and numerous police chiefs (too many to count) and non of them seem to be able to do any thing.

I think its a way bigger issue than an administration or police chief. Culture in Society, Culture in Prison, Mental Health issues, etc. It seems like in this day and age, crime is more like a wild fire and sometimes all you can hope to do is control it, extinguishing it is out of the question.

EastCB · Post by **EastCB** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:03 am

Brad wrote:
Omababe wrote:Not to be a total b*tch here, but are the cops and the administration totally unable to do anything about this?
Violent crime in Omaha has been bad for the past decade or more. We have been though 4 mayors (Daub, Fahey, Suttle, Stothart) and numerous police chiefs (too many to count) and non of them seem to be able to do any thing.

I think its a way bigger issue than an administration or police chief. Culture in Society, Culture in Prison, Mental Health issues, etc. It seems like in this day and age, crime is more like a wild fire and sometimes all you can hope to do is control it, extinguishing it is out of the question.

Well said, Brad.

GRANDPASMUCKER · Post by **GRANDPASMUCKER** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:28 am

Brad wrote:
Omababe wrote:Not to be a total b*tch here, but are the cops and the administration totally unable to do anything about this?
Violent crime in Omaha has been bad for the past decade or more. We have been though 4 mayors (Daub, Fahey, Suttle, Stothart) and numerous police chiefs (too many to count) and non of them seem to be able to do any thing.

I think its a way bigger issue than an administration or police chief. Culture in Society, Culture in Prison, Mental Health issues, etc. It seems like in this day and age, crime is more like a wild fire and sometimes all you can hope to do is control it, extinguishing it is out of the question.

Oh yeah this problem has festered for decades. And it always gets worse in the summer. My Dad used to say way back in the 60s and 70s that the only thing that can slow this killing and fighting down now is winter. My Mom worked at Immanuel Hospital on 30th & Ames on the 3rd shift in the emergency room back in the 70s. She came home every day during the summer with endless tales of the shooting victims that came in and the stabbings. Often times she would tell of nights where 3 or 4 shootings came in and 3 or 4 stabbings all in the same night. One thing about the hood I never understood is the way they love to sit out on their porches in the summer during the middle of the night. The mother of the guy who got killed Saturday was on the TV News stations saying that he was not doing anything wrong and was just sitting on his front porch with friends at 3AM in the morning. She said it as if she did not have a clue that there were a number of things wrong with that statement. Can these people actually be that stupid that they do not realize that hanging outside at night in the ghetto is very dangerous especially if you have even an inkling that you have been involved with dubious and shady characters who may be mad at you? And of course none of them have life insurance or a nickel to their name and every time one of them gets killed they have to do the fund raisers and the beg-a-thons. Of course the beg-a-thons seem to be mandatory for all these days. Just once could we see someone get killed or die and not have the relatives out begging for funeral money or support of the family. I digress!

Post by **nebugeater** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:49 am

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
Brad wrote:
Omababe wrote:Not to be a total b*tch here, but are the cops and the administration totally unable to do anything about this?
Violent crime in Omaha has been bad for the past decade or more. We have been though 4 mayors (Daub, Fahey, Suttle, Stothart) and numerous police chiefs (too many to count) and non of them seem to be able to do any thing.

I think its a way bigger issue than an administration or police chief. Culture in Society, Culture in Prison, Mental Health issues, etc. It seems like in this day and age, crime is more like a wild fire and sometimes all you can hope to do is control it, extinguishing it is out of the question.

Oh yeah this problem has festered for decades. And it always gets worse in the summer. My Dad used to say way back in the 60s and 70s that the only thing that can slow this killing and fighting down now is winter. My Mom worked at Immanuel Hospital on 30th & Ames on the 3rd shift in the emergency room back in the 70s. She came home every day during the summer with endless tales of the shooting victims that came in and the stabbings. Often times she would tell of nights where 3 or 4 shootings came in and 3 or 4 stabbings all in the same night. One thing about the hood I never understood is the way they love to sit out on their porches in the summer during the middle of the night. The mother of the guy who got killed Saturday was on the TV News stations saying that he was not doing anything wrong and was just sitting on his front porch with friends at 3AM in the morning. She said it as if she did not have a clue that there were a number of things wrong with that statement. Can these people actually be that stupid that they do not realize that hanging outside at night in the ghetto is very dangerous especially if you have even an inkling that you have been involved with dubious and shady characters who may be mad at you? And of course none of them have life insurance or a nickel to their name and every time one of them gets killed they have to do the fund raisers and the beg-a-thons. Of course the beg-a-thons seem to be mandatory for all these days. Just once could we see someone get killed or die and not have the relatives out begging for funeral money or support of the family. I digress!

You make some points but I will have to disagree that it is just a problem to sit on your front porch at 3 in the morning. If in fact you are not doing anything wrong or have not tangled with the wrong crowd you should be able to do this without fear. I get that this is often not the case though.

The big issue as I see it is the lack of willingness of anyone who sees something or knows something to step forward with information to help the authorities. I understand there is danger or perceived danger in doing so but until there is some accountability within the community the cycle will not be broken no matter what the mayor, police, or any other authority tries to do.

S33 · Post by **S33** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:02 pm

A lack of willingness to cooperate with the police and investigators, definitely emboldens these violent criminals.

But that isn't the source of the problem.

As always, it's deeply-rooted cultural problems. A lot of the urban youth are not being "raised", they are simply existing until they ripen to an age where crime becomes their norm, and their day job.

Each and every parent who has no clue what their children are doing, are really the ones to blame for all this. (Along with the idiots committing the crimes, of course)

I know some of us really prefer to skirt around the harsh realities of this problem, and prefer to blame the mayors office, the police, heck, even racism, because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside, but they are just lying to themselves.

These homicides aren't going away, until there is a real cultural shift in these neighborhoods. I'm not talking about Mad Dads marching down Ames, I'm talking about these parents willing to engage in the daily grind that is parenthood.

But that seems like too much work for some.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:02 pm

Police have a 17 and 15 year old in custody, looking for a 12 year old involved in a shooting last week.

Post by **Brad** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:02 am

iamjacobm wrote:Police have a 17 and 15 year old in custody, looking for a 12 year old involved in a shooting last week.

This just shows that there is a complete and total breakdown at the family and community level. It doesn't' matter how many jobs you create, it doesn't matter how many prisons you build, it doesn't matter how high you raise the minimum wage, it doesn't matter how many people you put on death row. When you have kids, not even teenagers, but kids running around shooting people, you have way bigger issues... So Sad!

Post by **nebugeater** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:39 am

How is it that the 12 year old is the one still not caught? He doesn't have the worldly experience or resources to evade authorities for long on his own IMO. With someone has to be helping him and that again is part of the root of the problem.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:51 pm

Brad wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Police have a 17 and 15 year old in custody, looking for a 12 year old involved in a shooting last week.
This just shows that there is a complete and total breakdown at the family and community level. It doesn't' matter how many jobs you create, it doesn't matter how many prisons you build, it doesn't matter how high you raise the minimum wage, it doesn't matter how many people you put on death row. When you have kids, not even teenagers, but kids running around shooting people, you have way bigger issues... So Sad!

Just really sucks when the role models for children and the ones shooting and in gangs rather than the ones doing it the right way. Really I feel kind of bad for this 12 hear old. Most likely he was used by those older boys to do their dirty work b/c they figured a 12 year old wouldn't be punished as muh as they would. The kid almost never had a chance in life once he was allowed to be with these influences.

S33 · Post by **S33** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:55 pm

there isn't a shred of accountability from the parents, going on multiple generations, now.

This bullshit is in a perpetual cycle that has zero inner factors to prevent it from continuing.

We will be riding in anti-gravity commercial aircraft, and these people will still be on the street shooting at eachother.

bigredmed · Post by **bigredmed** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:05 pm

I used to treat a kid who was in a gang. Trouble is, his mom was in the rival gang.

Uffda · Post by **Uffda** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:55 pm

nebugeater wrote:How is it that the 12 year old is the one still not caught? He doesn't have the worldly experience or resources to evade authorities for long on his own IMO. With someone has to be helping him and that again is part of the root of the problem.

According to the news, his none of parents were at the courthouse today even though his older brother was being charged so they could be hiding or on the run.

There is a breakdown in family and part of it is that you have kids have kids and they themselves don't know what family is. And some of the guys seem to be fathering multiple kids --- time for some good birth control teaching and not abstinence is the way.

S33 · Post by **S33** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:14 am

bigredmed wrote:I used to treat a kid who was in a gang. Trouble is, his mom was in the rival gang.

I can see how that might be a problem.

Lmao

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:31 am

The 12 year old was just arrested in Minneapolis.

S33 · Post by **S33** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:05 am

iamjacobm wrote:The 12 year old was just arrested in Minneapolis.

Find him at Lego Land?

Omababe · Post by **Omababe** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:46 am

iamjacobm wrote:The 12 year old was just arrested in Minneapolis.

12 years old! That is just sad!

Post by **Coyote** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:33 am

Omababe wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:The 12 year old was just arrested in Minneapolis.
12 years old! That is just sad!

Sad that someone decided that they needed to take him into hiding to avoid prosecution.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:17 pm

http://mic.com/articles/80371/what-is-t ... rprise-you

S33 · Post by **S33** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:37 pm

Garrett wrote:http://mic.com/articles/80371/what-is-t ... rprise-you

Any publicity is good publicity? Wait...

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 3:29 pm

S33 wrote:
Garrett wrote:http://mic.com/articles/80371/what-is-t ... rprise-you
Any publicity is good publicity? Wait...

This article came out last spring.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:18 pm

Louie wrote:
S33 wrote:
Garrett wrote:http://mic.com/articles/80371/what-is-t ... rprise-you
Any publicity is good publicity? Wait...
This article came out last spring.

It's still incredibly relevant to this discussion, especially given that the homicide rate this year seems to have spiked.

debradomayer · Post by **debradomayer** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:29 pm

The parents of the Milton youth didn't show in court because they are both incarcerated. Mom is in York & the Dad is in a Minnesota prison for murder. Nice. Kid didn't stand a chance

GRANDPASMUCKER · Post by **GRANDPASMUCKER** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:22 pm

debradomayer wrote:The parents of the Milton youth didn't show in court because they are both incarcerated. Mom is in York & the Dad is in a Minnesota prison for murder. Nice. Kid didn't stand a chance

I don't know if it is the case here but often when the parents are incarcerated the kids end up with relatives or grand parents. The problem with that rational is that the grandparents may be nice people but if they were any good at parenting they would not have a kid in prison. Too often I have seen people who have already screwed up their own kids getting the opportunity to screw up their grand kids.