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I'm hearing that Franks Pizza on 13 2nd and dodge has sold to an out of state family. No word yet on if they will retain the name and recipes.

Shame. Amazing pizza
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Accurate New York pizza. Can't say I liked it as much as Omaha style pizza, but I can say that it was just like the pizza I ate in Manhattan.
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What's Omaha style pizza?
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Louie wrote:What's Omaha style pizza?
Never heard of it. Hopefully if it does sell they keep the pizza the same, love that place.
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Louie wrote:What's Omaha style pizza?
I am guessing the Mama's / Sortino's / Big Fred's style pizza?
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Omaha pizza is a derivative of NY style, thicker crust. Available in the old school pizza places that derived from it's origin at Caniglia's.
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Maybe Hyok Kim will come back from sabbatical and clear up any pizza confusion.
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Not sure when his orbit is next scheduled to swing by Earth.
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The owner was just on a recent TV report about fraudulent phone calls seeking over the phone payments.

Food was good, but pricey.
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I was just there last night for dinner, and Frank was there... Didn't get a chance to ask him though.
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What's the status of Frank's Pizza? Are all the locations closed?

Did they have 4 at one time?
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I know that the Capitol District is closed. I just saw a post on the Alley's page on Facebook, 4 days ago that they are cooking Franks pizza there. According to their website, you can order it right now:
https://thealleybellevue.com/franks-pizzeria/

I just don't get it. They closed temporarily in Jan and said new ownership, but they have missed out on a ton of concert, state wrestling, Creighton games and soon to be March madness.
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I guess I missed the memo that Frank's was closing at all (temporarily or permanently).

I know their website and Facebook page seem to have been taken down. I've not driven by any of their physical locations yet.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:51 pm I know that the Capitol District is closed. I just saw a post on the Alley's page on Facebook, 4 days ago that they are cooking Franks pizza there. According to their website, you can order it right now:
https://thealleybellevue.com/franks-pizzeria/

I just don't get it. They closed temporarily in Jan and said new ownership, but they have missed out on a ton of concert, state wrestling, Creighton games and soon to be March madness.
The new owners are waiting to hear back from the landlords to accept their offer before the locations can reopen unfortunately. So, at this point, the delay is being caused the landlord who owns the space where the Frank's Pizzeria locations are at.
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Wow, I would think negotiating with the landlord would be done before you buy a business.
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It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
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nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
It's all on the new business owners - you can't acquire an existing business (or businesses) and not know you'll be expected to abide by terms already in place for those locations. They could have signed new leases within the past 12 months for another 5-10 years for each store. Just because they don't like the terms doesn't mean the landlord needs to make accommodations.

They either purchased the stores for next to nothing or know next to nothing about buying existing business locations.
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djc311 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:20 am
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
It's all on the new business owners - you can't acquire an existing business (or businesses) and not know you'll be expected to abide by terms already in place for those locations. They could have signed new leases within the past 12 months for another 5-10 years for each store. Just because they don't like the terms doesn't mean the landlord needs to make accommodations.

They either purchased the stores for next to nothing or know next to nothing about buying existing business locations.
Thnks we are saying the same thing.
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nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:24 am
djc311 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:20 am
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
It's all on the new business owners - you can't acquire an existing business (or businesses) and not know you'll be expected to abide by terms already in place for those locations. They could have signed new leases within the past 12 months for another 5-10 years for each store. Just because they don't like the terms doesn't mean the landlord needs to make accommodations.

They either purchased the stores for next to nothing or know next to nothing about buying existing business locations.
Thnks we are saying the same thing.
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Frank’s Ralston has construction workers onsite and a “dumpling empire coming soon” sign, so at the very least that location isn’t coming back..
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Ben wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:37 pm Frank’s Ralston has construction workers onsite and a “dumpling empire coming soon” sign, so at the very least that location isn’t coming back..
I stopped in there a couple of times for weekday lunches. Their lunch crowd was never very impressive. I remember being a little concerned about their viability, but thought perhaps their dinner business was much better and that was carrying them. I guess not.
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where was the ralston location at?
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skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 am where was the ralston location at?
In Main Street Plaza just south of 72nd & Q on the east side of 72nd. (So, I suppose, not technically Ralston.)

5413 S 72nd St, Omaha, NE 68127
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ChadJK wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:07 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:49 am where was the ralston location at?
In Main Street Plaza just south of 72nd & Q on the east side of 72nd.

5413 S 72nd St, Omaha, NE 68127
It's in the same strip mall as Off the Bench (hockey and lacrosse store) and there's a Scooters in the parking lot.

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From Frank's Pizzeria Facebook page posted late Tue night


https://www.facebook.com/FranksPizzeria


Hey Friends,
Apologies for being rather quiet - we were hoping to make an announcement sooner.
At this time, Frank's Pizzeria at Frank's Pizzeria - Capitol District in downtown Omaha is hopefully preparing to open within the coming weeks. We have submitted a formal offer to the landlord in hopes of getting the store open ASAP. Once a deal is struck, we expect the store to be up and operating within 2-3 weeks.
Unfortunately, at this time, we have chosen to not reopen the location at 711 N 132nd St. We certainly hope that this is not forever. We desire to reopen a store location in West Omaha in the future once a more suitable location has been found, and we have the equipment available to reopen.
In the meantime, you can enjoy most of the Frank's Pizzeria menu, and more, at The Alley in Bellevue at 601 Chateau Dr Bellevue, NE 68005.
We look forward to serving you in downtown Omaha soon!
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Still sucks for them to miss out on the March Madness crowd, that is going to be next week and they are going to open in 2-3 weeks at the earliest.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:24 am Still sucks for them to miss out on the March Madness crowd, that is going to be next week and they are going to open in 2-3 weeks at the earliest.
With the statement "We have submitted a formal offer," I would be suspect of them opening any time soon, if at all
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nebugeater wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:27 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:24 am Still sucks for them to miss out on the March Madness crowd, that is going to be next week and they are going to open in 2-3 weeks at the earliest.
With the statement "We have submitted a formal offer," I would be suspect of them opening any time soon, if at all
Samesies... hate to be a pessimist, but if they couldn't negotiate terms on existing stores, what's to say they're going to be able to open a new location. I'm still confused as to how this even materialized as it seems someone mentioned the stores were purchased and then the new owners attempted to renegotiate terms on existing leases that were already in place. It doesn't typically work that way. And in this case my assumption would have to be they tried to lower their rent(s).
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Dead restaurant (no longer) walking.
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Frank's slipped when Joe (original owner) sold it years ago. 2016/2017.
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Hey there, just providing some brief insight because there seems to be several bits of misinformation from a few different people in this thread... and some other sites really.

Nebugeaster, you are correct that if a new operator takes over a business with an existing lease... then that operator may be obligated to operate under the terms of the existing lease. However, in the case of the Frank's Pizzeria at the downtown location, an entirely new lease has been negotiated. A Letter of Intent (LOI) was requested by the landlord with these new terms, and that LOI has been signed and formally submitted by the incoming tenants. The terms of the new lease should be finalized any day now.

While I am not blaming the landlord in any way... the landlord has been rather slow in their responses to the LOI and to the lease proposals. All parties involved had expected this process to be completed and the store already opened by mid-March. However, as I stated, lease terms have been largely negotiated but the landlord has been somewhat slow in their responses.

The Ralston is permanently closed, but there may be some upcoming news with the West Omaha location.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
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Steve.Kucirek wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:06 am Hey there, just providing some brief insight because there seems to be several bits of misinformation from a few different people in this thread... and some other sites really.

Nebugeaster, you are correct that if a new operator takes over a business with an existing lease... then that operator may be obligated to operate under the terms of the existing lease. However, in the case of the Frank's Pizzeria at the downtown location, an entirely new lease has been negotiated. A Letter of Intent (LOI) was requested by the landlord with these new terms, and that LOI has been signed and formally submitted by the incoming tenants. The terms of the new lease should be finalized any day now.

While I am not blaming the landlord in any way... the landlord has been rather slow in their responses to the LOI and to the lease proposals. All parties involved had expected this process to be completed and the store already opened by mid-March. However, as I stated, lease terms have been largely negotiated but the landlord has been somewhat slow in their responses.

The Ralston is permanently closed, but there may be some upcoming news with the West Omaha location.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord
Lack of transparency with the public isn't helping their reputation.
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Steve.Kucirek wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:06 am Hey there, just providing some brief insight because there seems to be several bits of misinformation from a few different people in this thread... and some other sites really.

Nebugeaster, you are correct that if a new operator takes over a business with an existing lease... then that operator may be obligated to operate under the terms of the existing lease. However, in the case of the Frank's Pizzeria at the downtown location, an entirely new lease has been negotiated. A Letter of Intent (LOI) was requested by the landlord with these new terms, and that LOI has been signed and formally submitted by the incoming tenants. The terms of the new lease should be finalized any day now.

While I am not blaming the landlord in any way... the landlord has been rather slow in their responses to the LOI and to the lease proposals. All parties involved had expected this process to be completed and the store already opened by mid-March. However, as I stated, lease terms have been largely negotiated but the landlord has been somewhat slow in their responses.

The Ralston is permanently closed, but there may be some upcoming news with the West Omaha location.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord

IMO, it is poor planning at best if the lease / new lease is not in place before you close on buying the business. Don't blame the delays on the landlord, who has no obligation, unless specified in the existing lease, to expedite any modifications.
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And you may be right IF a business was purchased prior to executing the lease...

But again, there are some details missing here that I cannot go into at this time.
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Steve.Kucirek wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:06 am Hey there, just providing some brief insight because there seems to be several bits of misinformation from a few different people in this thread... and some other sites really.

Nebugeaster, you are correct that if a new operator takes over a business with an existing lease... then that operator may be obligated to operate under the terms of the existing lease. However, in the case of the Frank's Pizzeria at the downtown location, an entirely new lease has been negotiated. A Letter of Intent (LOI) was requested by the landlord with these new terms, and that LOI has been signed and formally submitted by the incoming tenants. The terms of the new lease should be finalized any day now.

While I am not blaming the landlord in any way... the landlord has been rather slow in their responses to the LOI and to the lease proposals. All parties involved had expected this process to be completed and the store already opened by mid-March. However, as I stated, lease terms have been largely negotiated but the landlord has been somewhat slow in their responses.

The Ralston is permanently closed, but there may be some upcoming news with the West Omaha location.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord

IMO, it is poor planning at best if the lease / new lease is not in place before you close on buying the business. Don't blame the delays on the landlord, who has no obligation, unless specified in the existing lease, to expedite any modifications.
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Regardless, if facts cannot be shared, and I get that, the optics are terrible.


Steve.Kucirek wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:19 am And you may be right IF a business was purchased prior to executing the lease...

But again, there are some details missing here that I cannot go into at this time.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:40 am
Steve.Kucirek wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:06 am Hey there, just providing some brief insight because there seems to be several bits of misinformation from a few different people in this thread... and some other sites really.

Nebugeaster, you are correct that if a new operator takes over a business with an existing lease... then that operator may be obligated to operate under the terms of the existing lease. However, in the case of the Frank's Pizzeria at the downtown location, an entirely new lease has been negotiated. A Letter of Intent (LOI) was requested by the landlord with these new terms, and that LOI has been signed and formally submitted by the incoming tenants. The terms of the new lease should be finalized any day now.

While I am not blaming the landlord in any way... the landlord has been rather slow in their responses to the LOI and to the lease proposals. All parties involved had expected this process to be completed and the store already opened by mid-March. However, as I stated, lease terms have been largely negotiated but the landlord has been somewhat slow in their responses.

The Ralston is permanently closed, but there may be some upcoming news with the West Omaha location.
nebugeater wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am It sounds like they have their answer from the landlord on what they proposed.

The landlord had terms in place, and if you bought the business and thus took over the lease, you are still under those terms. One can ask for or propose changes, but without seeing the fine print and assuming the lease was properly transferred, you would still be bound by the existing lease. I cannot imagine why you would buy a business and intend to stay at the same location without accepting and understanding the lease.

With limited info here I am not sure you can blame this on the landlord

IMO, it is poor planning at best if the lease / new lease is not in place before you close on buying the business. Don't blame the delays on the landlord, who has no obligation, unless specified in the existing lease, to expedite any modifications.
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